Create new LSO form??

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JimMNH
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Anyone know how, or if it is even possible, to create a new LSO form?  For clarity, I'm not talking about personalizing an existing form.  What I am wondering is if it is possible to create a new form from scratch with the fields, tabs, and buttons that I want all defined from scratch.  I want to do this to trigger a process flow.  If possible, what tool does Lawson offer to do this?
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Are you talking about an S3 application form? You have to start from the app server and build it via pgmdef.
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pgmdef? Lawson engineering says "there is no tool to create a scratch LSO form". What is pgmdef?
Ragu Raghavan
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Just curious. If all you want to do is trigger a PF, can't you use WFWK.1 ?
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Posted By JimMNH on 08/14/2012 02:46 PM Anyone know how, or if it is even possible, to create a new LSO form?  For clarity, I'm not talking about personalizing an existing form.  What I am wondering is if it is possible to create a new form from scratch with the fields, tabs, and buttons that I want all defined from scratch.  I want to do this to trigger a process flow.  If possible, what tool does Lawson offer to do this?
I'm guessing you are trying to capture some data from the user, and want the form to somewhat match the look-and-feel of a Lawson form? And then you want it to trigger a process flow?
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Correct Mr. Henley. And WFWK.1 would need some serious changes/personalizations to make it clean enough for our users. Basically want to collect data from user .. some dates, a lookup, and a couple usernames. Take that info and trigger a process flow. Our users are in LSO .. so asking them to go do this in Portal is not a good solution.
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You would need to create a new form from scratch in the environment in order to expose it all the way through to LSO. The starting point in the environment is pgmdef, where you define the program, adding it to a product line, system code, etc. That is what gives it the look-and-feel of a standard Lawson S3 form.
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Do you have the Mashup Designer?
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I suspect I do not have Mashup Designer as I have no idea what that is. I will check though to be certain.
JimMNH
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We are not licensed for Mashup Designer.
JimMNH
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So any additional thoughts?  I've created a custom form in Design Studio for collecting this data and firing off a trigger/service.  BTW .. anyone have good documentation on setting this up?  The Design Studio tool is a little funky the way it behaves.
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Does this help? http://blogs.infor.com/s3...-office-s3-form.html
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This is a great way to trigger a process flow from an LSO form and we have used this very process.  This is a very nice video for anyone that is interested. The problem I have is that I want to capture unique data from the user for which there does not appear to be any existing forms with the fields I need to collect data from and pass to the process flow.  Maybe there is and I just don't know about the fields.  What I need to capture is the existing full list of Task Definitions for all users in the environment that I could potentially assign to a particular user and the full list of Users that could be assigned under User Task Definition.
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Sorry, butting in late here... So you need a custom web form really, it seems that you will collect data and then pass on to PF? Without having to create an LSO form from scratch you could just create an HTML form using any web programming language, embed that in a SmartNotifications Template, create a notification using that template and then create a shortcut or even display the entire notification on a related form. just a thought, if you want to get creative.
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You could work someone who has the mashup designer to help come up with the solution, and then export it for you.
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Some thoughts on this: 1.) Have you looked at the LSO scripting tool to see if you can use the utilize any code there to start a new form? We have only used this to customize current forms similar to DS but we have multiple forms 2.) Theoretically, I have not tried to do what you are doing but LSO Mashups can handle the creation of buttons, events to handle passing of data between data/links/buttons. So it sounds like it can work. It would be a couple of weeks before I could try to test anything on this Jimmy but sounds like it might work
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Thanks all for the thoughts. Working through these now that I'm back from vaca.