LSF 9.0.1 ESP 9

We are planning to start our dev upgrade to LSF 9.0.1.9 next week. We're on AIX6.1 LSF 9.0.1.6 with WAS 7 currently. I think the first thing you need to be aware of is that you will need to upgrade to WAS 7 fixpack 17 at a minimum to install 9.0.1.9. That will be a significant effort.

As for the rest I'll post more when I get the dev install done. I'm hoping flows won't have any issues because we have a lot of them. We are also upgrading to 9.0.1.7 applications at the same time.

Is this an upgrade? Reads like a patch to LSF and WAS. With the exception
of some changes in DSSO if you use it, this is about as straight forward as
it comes.

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> 02/03/2012 09:46 AM We are planning to start our dev upgrade to LSF
> 9.0.1.9 next week. We're on AIX6.1 LSF 9.0.1.6 with WAS 7 currently. I
> think the first thing you need to be aware of is that you will need to
> upgrade to WAS 7 fixpack 17 at a minimum to install 9.0.1.9. That will be a
> significant effort.
>
> As for the rest I'll post more when I get the dev install done. I'm hoping
> flows won't have any issues because we have a lot of them. We are also
> upgrading to 9.0.1.7 applications at the same time.
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We got through the upgrade of both environment and applications last week.  The process was mostly painless with only a little bit of trouble with the DSSO install. No issues with the LSF or App MSPs during install. 

So far all our flows seem to be working just fine.  I'm enjoying playing with the new Eclipse Processflow designer, some interesting new features there.  We won't get into serious user testing until next month but so far, so good.

A pretty quick and simple process nothing too dificult, but we were already on WAS 7.0 and only needed a minor fixpack.  Upgrading from WAS 6 to 7 could add more difficulty to the process.  

If upgrading from WAS 6 to WAS 7, lots of times, just a fresh install (vs and upgrade) is easier and simpler.

Lawson also recommends a fresh install over an upgrade in the LSF Cyclical Upgrade Workshop.  The key is to document the settings from the current version.  We just used a text document in class and used copy/paste to keep it simple.

Can anyone give me a brief update on this upgrade? We are currently upgrading from 900. Our technician has installed a 'brand new' server with the upgraded software, but can not inform us as to how to migrate any of our configuration settings/tables and any pre-existing flows. I have been researching for information regarding this, but have not had much luck.

You will also want to apply a patch that we were just made aware of yesterday... JT-336259
If you are a heavy user of Lawson (aka lots of users or big load on your system) you'll likely have slow-downs or complete hang-ups to the point of UN-usability without the patch and possibly a change to your lsserver.properties file.
We had to increase a java memory setting in there in combination with the patch.

GSC is fully aware and can guide you on what to set this value to, if you have issues and open a case with them.

You haven't had much luck because by design the 900 to 901 is an "upgrade
in place." Unless you are planning on moving to new hardware, upgrading
WAS, or some other component, then there is nothing to "migrate" per se.
It's like installing an ESP.

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> 04/26/2012 10:12 AM Can anyone give me a brief update on this upgrade?
> We are currently upgrading from 900. Our technician has installed a 'brand
> new' server with the upgraded software, but can not inform us as to how to
> migrate any of our configuration settings/tables and any pre-existing
> flows. I have been researching for information regarding this, but have not
> had much luck.
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Let me just say that we are working in a developement environment and we have moved to new hardware, an upgraded WAS, and upgraded other components for the 64 bit environment. That's where I'm at now. We have all the 901 hardware/software versions but none of our custom Pflows, the PF configuartion files or DS forms from 9.0.0. Our tech adamently says that it is not an 'upgrade' and the conventional methods of migrating/upgrading our pre-existing Pflows and DS forms all need to be 'rebuilt' from scratch; and that is my job. We have ALOT(!). I can't believe that there are no methods for 'copying/exporting/... ie salvaging' what is currently in the 9.0.0 environment over to the 9.0.1 environment. We tried using the pflowimpexp utility but only got some of the configuration data. Tech said he tried the pflowupdate but that is strictly for 8.x to 9.0.x- not 9.0.1. Then we tried dbdump and load of specific tables(WFACTVAR) and that threw out errors all over the place. I took a quick look at add-ins but there are no forms to upload the data into.

Thanks Greg, ref: JT-336259. We've had to keep up on the java memory several times before. We run several large PFs that run perfectly fine for long periods of time and then all of a sudden they hose up. In the past we've run into smaller 'issues' that were only cleared when a system reboot was performed. Always want to blame memory, abandoned threads, etc.... can never determine a definite cause. Knock on wood, we've been good for several months now.

Posted By Demichener on 04/26/2012 03:10 PM
 Our tech adamently says that it is not an 'upgrade' and the conventional methods of migrating/upgrading our pre-existing Pflows and DS forms all need to be 'rebuilt' from scratch; and that is my job. We have ALOT(!). I can't believe that there are no methods for 'copying/exporting/... ie salvaging' what is currently in the 9.0.0 environment over to the 9.0.1 environment.  .

Demichener, I think your tech is incorrect.  The "migration" from 900->901 on Windows for most clients involves a platform change, from x86 to x64.  Therefore, it's not a traditional in-place upgrade. However, there are several techniques you can use to migrate the ProcessFlow and security data from 900/x86 to 901/x64.  

Thanks John; that's exactly what I thought. I'll continue looking for some alternative techniques.

Yes, I also believe that your tech is incorrect. I remember going through our upgrade from 900 to 901, and not only were there steps for process flows, but jobs and print files as well.

Actually, what I remember is our 'skip' upgrade from 803 to 901.. perhaps if you look in older versions, you could find a document.

For some clients, depending on which hardware you're on, it's not an issue. But if you're transitioning hardware, it's not the 900->901 "upgrade" that is an issue, it's the transition to different architecture (e.g., x86->x64).

@Demichener It sounds like your tech has built a completely new 901 system on new hardware. I will presume this was done to for some good reason (i.e. 32bit -> 64bit architecture change) and that your apps version on the 901 system is unchanged.

With that said, you have a couple of things I would suggest to address the specific concerns YOU have listed (i.e. migrate flows and ds forms).

I would start with the low hanging fruit which should be the DS customizations. Follow the steps in Kbase Article-ID 86223 for migrating DS custom forms between server environments. Nothing too difficult here.

Now the issue with ProcessFlow. Because you are running different releases of LOGAN between the two servers, you are going to have to "migrate" some data. The most straight forward way would be to identify all the table containing the data you want to migrate. Perform a sysdump of LOGAN on the 900 and 901 systems so you have the table definitions for each. Sysload the 900 dump into the 901 logan. Rebuild and reorganize LOGAN on the 901 system. Export the 900 table data previously identified, and import into the 901 LOGAN tables. Sysload the 901 sysdump file back into the 901 LOGAN productline. Rebuild and reorganize the 901 LOGAN application.

At this point you have effectively converted your 901 LOGAN to 900 so you could bring in the 900 data, then converted it back.

You will want to be very careful not to do a full productline data copy from 900 to 901 because some data gets updated during the 901 install (i.e. the VERSIONS table in LOGAN)

Backup your LAWDIR/bpm folder on the 901 system. Copy over your LAWDIR/bpm folder from the 900 system to the 901 system.

Oh yeah, make sure you back up the 901 LOGAN database before the rebuild/reorg.

My guess is I've just covered at least 95% of the issues you are most concerned with (i.e. DS forms and PFlow customizations) The rest you can flesh out in testing.