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Woozy
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7/30/2009 3:29 PM
    Our infrastructure/security folks really REALLY want to eliminate telnet access to our Lawson servers.  Because of this, they are suggesting that we utilize PuTTY instead of LID for our Lawson development tasks so we can access using SSH instead of telnet. 

    Is LID is more than just a terminal emulator?  Can we use a different emulator and still do what we need to do?  We'll be using the Application Development Workbench/4GL to create customer interfaces and reports, so we have to be able to access all the Lawson utilities.

    Any additional suggestions would be helpful.  I'm just a humble developer drowning in a sea of chaos...

    Thanks!

    Kelly
    Kelly Meade
    J. R. Simplot Company
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    Milo Tsukroff
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    8/3/2009 12:32 PM
      LID is needed for some security setup (example: usergrpdef) and my suggestion is not to eliminate it.  LID is a VB application and is indeed far more than a terminal emulator. 

      Have you looked at Lawson Terminal?  It's supposed to be a Portal-based option that replaces LID.  I don't have experience with it, though. 
      Gary Davies
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      8/4/2009 1:52 PM
        PuTTY certainly can be used instead of LID for command line, in fact that is what the system admin folks at Lawson use because of the additional functionality it has over LID. What you may lose out not using LID is being able to test programs outside of Portal easily because I don't think the univwin terminal emulator would work in PuTTY, don't know for sure.

        Lawson Terminal is not a stable product and I would not recommend it.

        Woozy
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        8/4/2009 2:16 PM
          Thanks Milo and Gary.

          The issue with Lawson Terminal (aside from not being stable) is that is still uses telnet, which is what we're trying to avoid.

          I'm going to spend some time with our infrastructure folks later today to see if we get get PuTTY to access lx, led, dbdef, etc so we can use for development. The inability to test changes outside of portal may be another issue. Maybe they can find a way to get the univwin terminal emulator to work in PuTTY.

          Thanks for the thoughts. I'll let you know what we figure out today.
          Kelly Meade
          J. R. Simplot Company
          Boise, ID
          Jay Riddle
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          8/4/2009 2:27 PM
            I think there are some ways to use SSH to do port forwarding and tunneling etc. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get LID to work inside SSH.
            John Henley
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            8/4/2009 2:57 PM
              See the SSH article here:
              https://www.danalytics.co.../2005/April2005.aspx
              Thanks for using the LawsonGuru.com forums!
              John
              Woozy
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              8/5/2009 1:35 PM
                After working with a couple of our infrastructure guys for a couple of hours yesterday, we were finally able to get this working.

                We ended up going the route of using PuTTY and implementing SSH port forwarding - thanks to Jay and John for their suggestions.

                It will be a bit more complicated to get logged in and running in the morning, but it will be more secure.

                Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions - I very much appreciate it!

                Kelly
                Kelly Meade
                J. R. Simplot Company
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                ichiben
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                11/19/2009 7:21 PM

                  I use cygwin/Xwin then start a rxvt terms and use ssh to connect.  As root , I can move to the $LAWDIR directory then source the environment by    /LSF9/dev/law . cv

                  Then I can run lawson command as if I were in LID. 

                  ex  lapm latools

                  trueblueg8tor
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                  3/26/2013 3:32 PM
                    Ichiben could you please elaborate on how you do this I've used cygwin before to install portal and environment patches but never to use ssh. Thanks.